Summary

• (ToDo) Stewart, Johan, and Taikan will send their notes to Caterina. Caterina will compile these and issue the draft of IAHS Newsletter article within a few days.
• (ToDo) All the H2020 members will review the draft and reply their comments. The draft will be revised, and submitted to Pierre Hubert before February 1st.
• (ToDo) Stephan will prepare the flyer of H2020 in March.
• (ToDo) Ask support for WMO/UNESCO about color Flyer.
• (ToDo) Harouna will ask Pierre Hubert about the booking of our accomodation in June.
• (ToDo) Taikan will abbreviate the IAHS News Letter Article into the draft for EOS article. Circulate it and submit.
• (ToDo) E-mail address of Stephan and Johan should be corrected.
• (ToDo) Taikan should send photo images and the animation of global monthly river discharge to Pierre HUBERT.
• (ToDo) H2020 workshop setting for Sapporo IAHS/IUGG 2003
• (ToDo) Collect information about Kovacs meeting/IHP PhaseV

Januray 22nd (Tue)

Arrival

Januray 23rd (Wed)

[9:00]

• Group Photo
• Short Introduction from Taikan
• Welcome from Kate
• Stewart is named to take notes.

[9:25] Pierre Hubert

• You are free to organize. Guide line is fuzzy.
• Is hydrology science?
• Hydrology provides tool for water management.
• Science and technology are different.
• Refer: Opportunity in the hydrological science
• The book may be distributed through various channel such as UNESCO/WMO/IAEA, and Web. Other language than English may be considered.
• Kovacs meeting is held once in two years, and held just before intergovernmental council of IHP, UNESCO.
• All the participants to the H2020 WG except for Johan are hydrologist. Everybody agreed that hydrology is a part of Earth Science.

[9:50] Oki

• Global Hydrology

[10:20] Kate Heal, Institute of Ecology & Resource Management, The University of Edinburgh.

• Geography€Îhydrology€«€é¡£
• M_n and Health.
• Ph.D Research: to characterize M_n concentration in runoff over time and space and to identify the processes controlling M_n mobilistion in upland catchments
• M_n flush in soil water in autumn.
• M_n mobilisation and soil moisture regime
• Loch Bardan, SW Scotland: the effect of land use and soil type: soil water samples, tensio-meter.
• Trichloroacetic acid cycling in catchment: TCAA (CCl3COOH) banned as herbicide in 1950s but still appealing....
• TCAA fluxes in an upland catchment
• Field observation and water quality.
• Remediation of drainage from mine spoil.
• Use of ochre in in-stream filter units
• Future work:
  • Trial in constructed wetlands for sewage effluent treatment
  • Peformance and environmental acceptability of P-saturated ochre as a slow-release fertiliser
  • Development of ochre dosing system for removal of P from open water bodies
  • ...
• Sustainable urban drainage systems: ... Hot science topic in Scotland.
• Sedimentation in SUDS pond: volume and quality.
• Are sediments ecotoxic?
• Motivation: process and social

[10:45] Break

[11:10] Stewart Franks (University of New Castle, Australia)

• Research interest: modelling land surface hydrology
• Model development and testing
• Uncertainty estimation and contraint
• GLUE (Beven and Binley, 1992)
• evaluate worth of additional sources of data: remote sensing. multi-objective optimization.
• Currently developing error sensitive approach
• LANDSAT-TM estimated latent heat fluxes: FIFE 15x15km grassland site.
• Constraining TOPMODEL with saturated area estimates
• Hydrological variability and change:
  • Evaluting the worth of climate forecasts: seasonal/interannual, El Nino/Southern Oscillation, conditional risks of drought/fire/flood
  • New index of ENSO: Multi-variate ENSO index (MEI), souperior to Southern Oscillation Index (SOI)
  • NB. El Nino is coming!!! Predicted in July with MEI
• Hydrological variability and change: natural multi-decadal variability.
• stochastic SST model¡£ Change of CO₂ concentration is considered. The effect of solar activity is primary.
• risk = P(occurence) ¡ß consequence of occurences: P is largely unpredictable ¢ª must shift focus o minimising cnsequences:
• (Stephan) Uncertainty in solar constant data?
• (Oki) Is the estimation of global SST a part of hydrology?
• (Pierre) sampling variability?

[11:45] DI Wolfgang Diernhofer, ALLPLAN GmbH

• environmental consulting company in Austria
• 33, married, 3 children
• non-university member; linking hydrological science and (hydrological) society
• Âç³Ø€Ç€Ï¡¢river basin hydrology, impact assessment of climate changes, and statistical modelling.
• ALLPLAN GmbH: river basin management - technical assistance, water resources development, and implementation of environmental legislation.
• Project: Impact of Climate Change on River Basin Hydrology under different Climatic Conditions - CCHYDRO, within the 4th EU framework, Environment and Climate.

[12:08] Harouna Karambiri, Universitte Pierre Et Marie Curie (¥Ñ¥ê)

• storm flow, erosion and transfer of matters (solid and dissolved) in Sahelian area: study and modelling of mechanisms at a small pastoral catchment scale in the north of Burkina Faso.
• Environmental Issues:
  • human: deforestation, increase of cultivated lands, unsuitable farming techniques
  • animal: overgrazing
  • natural: decrease f rainfalls since 1970's, wind and rain aggressiveness
  ¢ªloss of biodiversity, fragility of ecosystems, soil eroion, surface crusting, and desertification.
• Scientific issues:
• Investigataion tools: pedlological characterization
• (Stephan) Why bed load is lowest in 2000?
• (Johan) How much do you communicate with local policy makers? ¢«Solution measure. Still science. scientific understanding is still required.
• (Oki) human impact on local climate?

[12:45] Lunch

[13:50] Caterina Valeo

• urbanizing catchment
  • TOPMODEL in urban area. GIS
  • snow model in urban area
• hydrological modelling of remote regions
  • SLURP model: Smi-distributed Land Use-based Runoff Processes model
  • Graphical User Interface for engineers
  • Remote sensing to model snow cover etent
• impacts of forest fires and climate change on runoff
• remote sensing application on water quality

[14:12] Guobin Fu, Associate Professor, Department of Hydrology and Water Resources, Institute of Geographical Science and Natural Resources Research, Chinese Academy of Sciences.

• Water Resources is an application of hydrology.
• B. Sc. 1987 on physical geography, 1990 M. Sc. on hydrology and water resources. 1993 Assistant Professor, 1999 Associate Professor.
• Research Works
  • Regional hydrological responses to environmental change/global warming
  • Water movement in the agricultre field and hydrological simulation
  • Water surface evaporation experiment and estimation
  • GIS/RS application on water resources and hydrology
  • Land use planning & land survey
• More than 1,000 licenses of ARC/Info
• Dynamic mechanism of hydrological cycle of the Huanghe (Yellow) river
  • Experiment in lab and in the field
  • distributed hydrolgical models
  • remote sensing applications
• without field work, model may be not true.
• 1997 drying up (zero discharge) in the Yellow river near river mouth.

[14:50] Stephan Uhlenbrook, University of Friburg, Institute of Hydrology, Germany

• Main problem in catchment hydrology: Where does the water come from?
• Main objectives:
  • how to identify runoff processes using tracer methods?
  • how can process knowledge be translated into a catchment model?
  • how can the model be tested using additional data?
• Brugga Catchment, Germany€ÈH. J. Andrews, Oregon, USA
• identification of runoff origin, flow pathways among residence times of the water and chemical species
• quantifying runoff components of floods using hydro chemistry and isotopes
• TAC-D: spatial discretisation, tracer aided catchment model, fully distributed.
• Tracers offer good tools to identify runoff generation processes at catchment scale
• Incorporation of process knowldege into TAC-D
• Importance of distributed input data and distributed modelling at the meso-scale
• Use of additional data for model testing
• Process-oriented model is prerequisite for water quality modelling
• Boundary Condition for the Hydrology 2020:
  • 2020: ca. 8.5 billion people. most of them live in cities of the developing world
  • water supply and waste water
  • IPCC: temperature increase and precipitation change. more intense and larger rain storms, longer rainless periods, changing hydrological regimes, more frequent floods and land slides, no reduction of droughts, re-evaluation of dams
  • Sea level rise: so far 18cm, addtionally at least 31-49cm.
  • Capable technical solutions for USA, NL, etc. Migration from poorere countries? 11.5% of people in Bangladesh are in danger.
  • Increase of irrigation farming
  • Explitation of fossile ground water
  • Biotechnology: cheaper and more food, but reduce plant diversity?
  • Increase of cancer about 1% per year.
  • Many new "pollution species" e.g., pesticides, medicaments: cocktail-effect (1+1>>2), but many things are unknown.
  • Hydrology and Forests: 0.5% per year decreasing in tropics
  • Hydrology and Terrorism: More protection of dams or water supply is required.
• What is the most critical bottle neck hydrological science is truggling now?
  • Data problems
  • Process understanding
  • Regionalization
  • space-time patterns
  • accuracy and uncertainty
  • residence times
• What are the expected advances in technology which will contribute for future hydrology?
  • remote sensing
  • more tracers and better methods
  • holistic, integrated models
  • sea water desalination using solar energy
• What are the water issues to be solved demanded from society?
  • Water supply in particular in large cities
  • Water management between countries
  • Hydrological extremes
• What is the specialty in hydrology which cannot be dealt with by other disciplines?
  • Water plays a key role in all environmental and society issues
  • Hydrology is an interdisciplinary science

[15:46] Jeanna Balonishnikova

• Scientific secretary: with Shiklomanov(International Hydrological Award in 2001)
• Cambridge University Press Monograph.
• 2025ǯ:20% increase. domestic water use: 10-20%low in Europe¡£40%low in America. Africa 10% increase. +50% in Asia.
• Industrial water use: 1995 level.
• Water losses from reservoir surface: increase 5%.
• population, political and social situation are required.
• Conventional Scenario and Sutainable Development Scenario
• Necessary investment for 1km³ of water resources: runoff reservoir control 50-80, use of glaciers in mountain regions 50-100, desalination of salt and brackish water 600-1800, water transfers 100-800, Use of Antarctic icebergs 500-700, Update technologies in industries and industrial wastes treatment 200-1000, Recostruction of irrigation systes and improved technology of irrigation 700-900.
• The effect of reservoir for water resources: Reservoirs as indicators for water use and water management development in the world

[16:50] Johan Kuylenstierna

• Arthur Askew was former boss in WMO. Working in Enrivonmental Research M for two years.
• Policy and economics: physical geographer, paleo climate, Holocene.
• 400 hours of lecture a year.
• commission on sustainable development <- Rio's follow up. Economist and lawer in his office.
• translate technical words which policy maker can understand.
• ACCC: UN system. 24 organization is related to water issues. fragmented.
• 1996 Comprehensive Fresh Water Assessment
• Bonn Conference for Sweden Government
• Related to Sweden Water Symposium
• The sustainability pyramid: social, economic, and environment. Stakeholder values & relationships, vision & mission, management & organisation, production & opeations, products & services, identity.
• Young professional seminar:
• Integrated water resources management:
  • Industry, agriculture
  • Policy, targets, indicators, follow up Int., Comm Int/ext, Feedback.
  • Finance/Economy, Environment, Social/Ethics
• Classical Challenge: How to integrate everything everywhere at all scales all the time involving everybody!
• 5 years of young professionals seminars: What have we learnt?
  • very useful to be mixed!
  • difficult to be specific and action oriented!
  • nobody really wanted to discuss hydrology!
  • nobody was particularly interested in discussion technology!
  • everybody wants to discuss how to deal with people
  and we are not getting younger!
• From theory to action: Chain of key actors:
  • Those who identify problems
  • Those who raise them
  • Those who identify problems
  • Those that facilitate implementation
  • Those who implement solutions
  We ask of others to be involved -- let us get involved! confront decision makers - do not accept closed doors!
• The possibiliies and threat of globalization -- 2001 seminar
• It was Albert Einstein who said: "If you cannot explain it simply, you do not understand it well enough."
• Science should explain things in a simple way!: Globalization is understood as a transformation of social space marked by the growth of superterritorial connections between people.
• Publication should be not only for our community.
• The reason people blame things on the previous generation is that there's only one other choice." Doug Larson.
• A conference is a gathering of important people who singly can do nothing, but together can decide that nothing can be done.

[17:28] Susan Hubbard, Earth Sciences Division, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory

• geology, geophysics, and civil engineering
• ground water. National lab. and UC Berkeley.
• using geophysical data for hydrological parameter
• Oyster Project
• Detailed Characterization using GPR, tomographic and flowmeter data within the chosen focus areas.
• Bayesian Estimation Methodology: seismic and radar velocities are co-linear.
• Problem with spatial correlation estimation using measured data
• Good agreement between tomographic estimates and measured bromide moments.
• radar monitoring of GAS evolution during biostimulation
• lactate + humics injection
• seismic and radar attributes variations during biostimulation.

[18:15]
• Comments and suggestions from Pierre Hubert?
  • Financial support to the group this time/June in Paris?
  • mixture of discipline but similar
• Logistics from Kate

January 24th (Thu)

[9:05]

• Review the outputs expected from us
  • Redbook in 2005.¢«January 2004
  • 6th Kovacs meeting: as "leader" of "young" hydrologists
  • Brief report at the IUGG/IAHS assembly in 2003 in Sapporo.
  • Input to the "Geophysics: The Future" Symposium in Sapporo, which is organized by Uri Shamir, former president of IAHS.
  • Targeting the reader of our outputs: Scientists. Summary for policy makers at WWF4 in 2005.
  • Promoting IAHS¢«particularly for young scientists
  • hydrological science is the key for water resources management
• Can all the members organize domestic version of the meeting for Hydrology 2020?
• list up topics to be discussed, and break up into small groups
• Nobody except for Stewart has read through 2000.
• Reviewing the input from Pierre Etchevers
• Caterina: engineer/scientist/technician are different

[10:30] Break

[10:15] Answer to the questions provided by Taikan in advance. Caterina, Jeanna, Harouna,...

• What is the most critical bottle neck hydrological science is truggling now?
  • cuts in monitoring programs
  • better use of sattellite information
  • hydrological data from non-monitored river basins
• What are the water issues to be solved demanded from society?
  • building robustness and resiliency into water resource systems
• What are the expected advances in technology which will contribute for future hydrology?
  • satellite remote sensing
• What is the specialty in hydrology which cannot be dealt with by other disciplines?
  • unsaturated flow
  • integration of climate impacts

[10:50] Continuation

• Harouna: Confused. I don't know hydrology.
• Old/Traditional hydrology: "Hey Hydrology, would you please 100-year flood?" "Yes, sure"
• "Virtual Hydrology" or "Hydrology without water"
• Today, this trend is always going on!
• "Cyber hydrologists"
• action items for hydrological sciences
• two-tier of hydrology

[11:20] Mission Statement

• What are the issues we expect hydrological sciences will have deal with in 2020 -- based on current knowledge and trends?
• Provide a vision on how hydrological science in 2020 should be to cope with above issues.
• Identification of challenging areas and exciting research themes
• Increase the involvement of younger scientists
• Increase the awareness of water issues
• Develop innovative ways of making hydrological education exciting
• Promote the role of hydrological science and engineering
• Define research priorities -- based on topics rather than disciplines
• Promoting and strengthening the role of IAHS (provide recommendatins) -- particularly towards LDCs
• Strenghen the links between hydrological sciences and water resources management
• reviewing the current status

• Difference between IAHS and UNESCO
• Difference of the targets by World Water Vision and this WG
• Do we deal both "how hydrological science should be" and "how hydrological science will be"?

[12:40] Lunch

From another perspective

• Look back hydrology in 1980:
  • just after TOPMODEL
  • just after physical-stochastic description of water balance (Eagleson)
  • just after completion of operational satellite observations
  • just after Mal de Plata conference (1977)
  • just after macro pores and sprinkling experiments
  • just after the "Green Revolution" in 1970s
  • just after the boom of cloud seeding
  • just after the concept of "fractal" was introduced
  • poor computation/communication abilities
  • people were afraid of ice age
  • before digital radar rainfall measurements
  • before digital data loggers in the field observations
  • before FIFE experiments
  • before interactions with climate/meteorology community
  • before scaling issues
  • before fuzzy computing, nural network, chaos, etc.
  • before Bayesian statistics
  • before global warming issues and ENSO concerns
• What are the issues we expect hydrological sciences will have to deal with in 2020 -- based on current knowledge and trends?
  • social change
    • developed "developing" countries
    • rapid urbanization in south
    • population growth ¢ª more food
    • land use/land cover change
    • increase social responsibility for scientists/researchers ¢ªlicence of "professional hydrologist"?
  • polution and health
  • climate change
    • change in hydrological cycles
  • water preservation for ecosystem services
• Expected Technological/Theoretical Development related to hydrology:
  • RS/GIS/GPS: higher spatial, temporal, and spectral resolutions, and 3D
  • numerical modeling: fine resolution. direct up scaling?
  • communication:
    • data transmission
    • visualization
    • fill the gap between countries, communities, ...
    • fancy (graphical) user interface
    • virtual reality
    • policy change
  • bio-sensors, nano-(smart) sensors: real time physical/chemical sensors will be available.
  • plant which can be grown by brackish water
  • systems theory which can synthesize and integrate components more efficiently (industrial engineering)
  • uncertainty modeling
• Vision on how hydrological science in 2020 should be?
  • multidisciplinary: ecology, geology, soil physics, geophysics, social sciences, atmospheric sciences, geotechnical engineering, geography,
  • more relationship with policy
  • holistic
• Targeting the expected hydrological science in 2020, what should be done?

[15:35] Break

[15:50] Who wants to know what we have to say?

• IAHS-red book, specific recommendations
• scientists - red book, articles, wrkshops
• engineers and technicians - red book
• policy and decision makers at all levels- summary for policy makers, press articles, flyers
• funding institution: research priorities
• general public - press articles, video games,

[16:20] EOS article

• back ground (by John)
• What was discussed
• mission statement
• contact
• URLof Hydrology 2020 web page
• Schedule, such as Sapporo meeting

[16:35] Stewart

• Hydrolgical Data
  • availability, cost, decline in networks, standarisation
  • remote sensing (thermal, visible, microwave, radar) use and limits
  • data for models -commensurate
• model testing
  • robust physical basis - no calibration needed?
  • calibration approaches
  • validation/verification
  • uncertainty estimation
  • hypothesis testing
• Hydrolgical science and hydrological society
  • responsibility
  • effecitve communication
• Hydrological science v.s. engineering
  • do new solutions filter through to practice?
  • any value in standard approaches
• Technology + information transfer
  • do we do enough to promote adoption of "best" science
  • should we consider ourselves responsible discemminating insights
  • are we failing the less developed countries?
• Climate and hydrological variability and change
  • given key nature of water, are we as involved as we should be?
• Computers what are they good for?
• Hydrological scale problems
• Transferability of models
• Hydrological remediation
• What is the role of scientist in affecting change?

[16:45] Wolfgang

• bottle neck: down scaling climatic impact assessments
• water issues: The policy impacts of new research results
• satisfy water demands of society
• Technological developments:

[16:48] Kate

• Bottle neck: soil characteristic heterogeneity, hydroecology- understanding the responses of aquatic flora and fauna to changes in the water regime
• Water issues:
• Technological developments:
• Speciality in hydrology: measurement and modeling of water flow and quality

[16:52] Guobin

• Relationship between hydrology and water resources.
• Hydrologist should go to the field.
• changes in the hydrological cycle - feed-back mechanisums
• hydrological science should service decision and policy makers (society)

[16:55] Stephan

• Bottle neck: upscaling, handling of residence times --better understandings
• Water issues:
• Technological developments:
• Speciality in hydrology:

[17:10] General Discussion

• Advocative expression: e.g.,

  No more hydrological scientists like:

  • who does not pay attention to scaling issues

• Dealing with "economically driven science" - who decides what is important?
• The academic environment in itself is a bottleneck
• The quality of science
• Difficulty of publishing provoking ideas- challenge conventional wisdom

January 25th (Fri)

Action Items

• Public relations of Hydrology 2020 working group
  • Flyer (+LOGO) for Kovacs meeting in June:
    • provocative for senior & encouraging for junior!
    • Author: Hydrology 2020 Working Group
    • Introduction/Background.
    • Introduction of all the members
    • Short summary from the 1st meeting
      • mission statement
      • raised questions to be discussed
    • Timeline
    • contact/e-mail, URL: cf.H2020@hotmail.com
    • Supported by IAHS, WMO, and UNESCO
    • LOGO proposal from Kate and Stewart
    • Stephan will work on the first version in March.
    • may be in color. ask support for WMO/UNESCO
    
  • IAHS News Letter/EOS publcations
    • Author: Hydrology 2020 Working Group
    • Do we still see hydrology in 2020?
    • introduction: back ground (by John)
    • how members are nominated and selected?
    • brief introduction of the composition of members: name and countries, male/female
    • what was discussed? (topics)
    • detailed explanation of some key issues
      • raised issues on 23rd (summary by Stewart)
      • mission statement (will be edited and distributed by Kate)
    • How and to whom we will circulate our vision
    • Schedule from now on: 2nd meeting and 6th Kovacs meeting, Workshop in Sapporo, and final symposium at IAHS 2005.
    • contact/e-mail, URL
    • Acknowledgement for IAHS, WMO, and UNESCO (and Kate)
  • Web site
    • at http://www.cig.ensmp.fr/~iahs/ for official site.
    • at http://hydro.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp/H2020/ for internal use.
• Collection of the presentations in Edinburgh NO
  • PowerPoint Presentation File (PPT)
  • PDF
  • HTML
• Home work for June
  • review: state-of-the-art of each field in hydrology
    • Kate Heal: Ecohydrology and water quality
    • Jeanna Balonishnikova: Assessment and Forecast of Global Water Resources and their Use
    • Susan Hubbard: Ground Water
    • Wolfgang Diernhofer: Downscaling/Impact Assessment
    • Pierre Etchevers: Snow Hydrology
    • Fu Guobin: Application of Hydrology for Water Resources Management
    • Caterina Valeo: Remote Sensing in Hydrology
    • Stewart Franks: Hydrology and SVAT models
    • Stephan Uhlenbrook: Runoff process and tracers
    • Johan Kuylenstierna: Linkage between hydrology and policy making, how hydrological science contributed for economy.
    • Harouna Karambiri: International Collaboration and Hydrology, and erosion issue.
    • Taikan Oki: Hydrology 2000 and Opportunities in Hydrology( http://www.nap.edu/books/0309042445/html/index.html), US Water Initiatives("A Plan for a New Science Initiative on the Global Water Cycle, The USGCRP Water Cycle Study Group"), ....
  • Points of the reviewing:
    • free from commissions
    • evaluate not too much critically but positively
    • point out gaps and unresolved problems NOW
    • introduce important ideas proposed in the last 20-30 years
    • define needs in 2020
    • introduce expected technology/methodology in 2020
    • linkage with other field in the future
    • Missing field?
    • Summarize one issue one page: any issues per person
    Linkage between issues are examined in Paris. Presentations in Paris.
  • Idea for new vision 2020:
    • Vision on how hydrological science in 2020 should be?
    • Targeting the expected hydrological science in 2020, what should be done?
    • research priorities by topic
  • domestic version of "Hydrology 2020" meeting -> input in Paris meeting.
  • (+preparation for the 6th Kovacs meeting as a discusser)
  • After Paris (June 2002) to Sapporo (July 2003)
    • Do you want to come to Kyoto? (WWF3, March 2003)
    • Opportunity to have break-up meeting in San Francisco? (AGU, December 2003)

[10:30] Break

Snowing.

• Current (& future) Hydrology:
  • Why some part of hydrology seeks detailed basic physics(science)?
    • every hydrological research has some end use in mind
  • what is the question current hydrological science cannot answer?
  • what cannot be done except for hydrology?
  • what is the knowledge can be learned only from the class of hydrology?
• Educating hydrology
  • Educating teachers as a part of "Physical Geography" (Sweden)
  • Hydrometeorolgical University in Russia
• What should we tell about hydrology with a glance?
  • both natural and artificial hydrological cycle
  • hidden hydrological cycle, such as salty ground water intrusion
  • state of the art of water resource and anticipated catastrophe of world water crisis
  • interactions between scales in time and space, local, regional, and longterm view: cause and effects
  • hydrologist should be more organized under occasions such as flood.
  • (China) water resources is more popular than hydrology
• Current issues in hydrology
  • monitoring network
• Two way to be supported by society (sponsorship)
  • answer to the questions society asks
  • impressive results (Nobel Prize!)
• case/regional study and general(/global?) studies
  • Yes:
  • Why don't you go to cities where most people are living?
• field survey v.s. cyberspace games
• Principle lows/concepts in hydrology:
  • hydrological cycles
  • river basin and conversion of precipitation height to river discharge
  • unsaturated flow
  • contaminated flow of ground water
  • statistics on the probability of exceed
  • scaling
• Do we need process?
• Introduction of Prof. Takeuchi's comment:

  "Hydrology, at least engineering hydrology has been a science which can provide answers without knowing processes."

• (Johan) Vision for Action
  • water productivitiy
  • freshwater ecoystem research
• mitigation, adaptation under uncertainty
• communication between science and society
• how many scientific associations and meetings are you involved in?

[12:20] Lunch